Post by Doug Bissett
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 04:38:11 UTC, Bob Bencivenga
Post by Bob Bencivenga
Tim, do us all a favor; TONE IT DOWN.
Bob, you are not only wasting your time with the nutcase, but you are
wasting everybody elses time, and internet bandwidth, as well.
It's true. As long as eCS salesmen illegally promote a minor third
party established as problematic and overpriced, I will point out the
deficiencies and failures of Serenity, their salesmen/investors and the
FAQ: Pointer to eCS SCAM [eCS Scam]
eCS or "eComstation" is a bastardized piss-poor product being pandered
in the OS/2 newsgroups by a small handful of desperate
salesmen/investors. These salesmen will stoop to any level to attack,
harass, lie to, smear, and destroy any OS/2 user who speaks out against
their goal: to take over the OS/2 newsgroups and destroy the OS/2
community. Like "the Religious Right" these zealots go to great lengths
to push and shove their agenda down the throat of the OS/2 community.
Headed by "The Boob" (Bob St. John) they zero in on one or two OS/2
users and hound them with their eCS promotions and when they complain,
these salesmen work to drive the OS/2 user out of the OS/2 newsgroups.
eCS fanatics have pretty much destroyed the OS/2 newsgroups for the time
being but the OS/2 user is undertaking a hard effort to stop the
destruction of our OS/2 community.
eCS is NOT OS/2. eCS simply uses OS/2 as a base operating system. eCS
itself is a minor third party vendor's problematic proprietary product
draped over OS/2 in an attempt to disguise the operating system and make
it 'their own'. The ONLY person who benefits from eCS is "The Boob" as
he picks the pockets of unsuspecting naive OS/2 users.
For this bizarre phenomenon we call the [eCS SCAM], read up on it at:
Then laugh your head off here:
and be sure to read the eCS LAUGH OUT LOUD Galley section on "How to
poke your finger in the eye of these con artists".
The OS/2 community would appreciate the insertion of [eCS SCAM] or [eCS
SPAM] in any message purporting to report on or romote the failed
product called eCS or eComStation.
By adding the bracketed titles you are helping the OS/2 community rid
the OS/2 newsgroups of illegal spamming by Serenity Systems, their
salesmen, investors and Anti-OS/2 fanatics.
And don't forget:
Complaints of illegal spamming by Serenity Officials, their salesmen,
distributors and investors in the OS/2 newsgroups will be accepted and
investigated by the Federal Trade Commission.
The eCS product is a *privately owned proprietary commercial package*
which prevents these eCS freaks from illegally misusing these OS/2
newsgroups to promote its sale through false advertising, misnomer
marketing tactics, public harassment, personal threats, phony
testimonials, and fake eCS customers. Such postings are commercial spam
published illegally to promote and sell a *privately owned propreitary
commercial package* in a public newsgroup.
Pandering a problematic product that doesn't work as advertised and
pitched illlegally by Serenity Officials, their distributors, salesmen
and investors here in the OS/2 newsgroups is an illegal and criminal act.
Please, take your complaint to the Internet Fraud Complaint Center of
the Federal Bureau of Investigation here:
A few Serenity eCS Facts for digestion:
(1) Serenity was late by eleven months (11 months) with the release of
an updated eCS v1.1 causing potential customers to forego their purchase
and move to other operation systems.
(2) Serenity has failed to provide any of their own developed drivers as
promised more than four years ago. In fact, Serenity has provided no
drivers themselves and relies on volunteers to donate time and effort to
eCS for free which benefits the financial pockets of Bob St. John, owner
(3) Serenity has lied to the OS/2 community regarding the claim they and
only they (Serenity) would be able to sell Warp 4 after January 31, 2001.
(4) Serenity has lied to the OS/2 community regarding the claim they and
only they (Serenity) could offer the OS/2 user a Journal File System (JFS).
(5) Serenity sold an older version of OS/2 included in the eCS v1.0
retail product but claim it is 'up to date' when it isn't..
(6) Serenity sold an older version of SmartSuite for OS/2 in the eCS
v1.0 product even tho' they claimed it was the latest release of SS/2
(7) Serenity failed to provide the latest Lotus SS/2 upgrade to their
customers for more than three months (SS/2 upgrade v1.7.1)
(8). eCS v1.0 and v1.1, both GA releasse of eCS, fails to install on 9
out of 10 machines.
(9) eCS v1.0, v1.1, v1.2, all GA releases of eCS, requires substantial
time, assistance, public tech support and manual adjusting to install on
95% of all machines it is installed to despite the claims of Serenity
that it works 'right out of the box'.
(10) Serenity claimed early buyers would get an advantage if they
purchased a protection fee service contract (Upgrade Protection Package)
and yet no advantage was provided to those with a SWC subscription in place.
(11) Serenity purposely avoids telling customers ALL software
accompanying an eCS Package can ONLY be used under an eCS system and no
(12) Serenity's distributors claim to sell the eCS upgrade ONLY to
those with a valid Warp 4 license yet some eCS customers have
acknowledged they have no such license nor where they required or even
asked to produce one at the time of purchase.
(13) Serenity published a document claiming eCS v1.2 would be released
no later than June 30th, 2004. Like most of their published claims,
Serenity failed to meet that announced delivery date leaving eCS Lusers
'in the lurch' for another 90 days.
(14) eCS v1.2 Beta Testers publicly warned of an early "GA" release of
eCS v1.2 would contain more than 12 detrimental bugs what should be
fixed but they weren't.
(15) BMTMicro offers pre-sales of eCS v1.2 but as of August 31, 2004,
have no product to ship.
(16) Kim "Looonytoony" Cheung, previous co-owner of Serenity, took a
powder more than a year ago and hasn't been seen or heard from since.
(17) Claims made by Serenity and their distributors to include "extras"
in the CD package don't exist.
(18) Serenity claimed eCS v1.2 would be able to migrate a previous OS/2
desktop without problem or incident yet buyers admit it doesn't happen
or work and they are forced to reinstall eCS from scratch losing all of
their previous applications, operating system configurations, and system
(19) Serenity claims to offer the option of *not* installing their own
bastardized releases of xWorkplace (aka eWorkplace) and Styler/2
(eStyler) yet the eCS v1.2 forces the installation no matter what.
(20) Serenity claims the eCS v1.2 buyer will get a discount for
previous purchases of Open Office for OS/2, RSJ for OS/2, SmartSuite for
OS/2, Styler/2 and xWorkplace yet the only two distributors of eCS v1.2
don't offer all the stated discounts.
(21) Despite claims by eCS v1.2 beta testers there were major problems
with the mouse driver in eCS, Serenity released eCS v1.2 with the mouse
problems anyway forcing the eCS buyer to try and correct the problem
(22) Serenity claims you can purchase eCS for just $59 but what they
don't say is that initial purchase is quite useless unless the eCS v1.2
buyer pays for an eCS Software Subscription ($89), an eCS Application
Pack ($99) and an eCS application Pack subscription service ($89) for a
total cost of over $300.
Tim Martin, The Official and Only OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com