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PDF (FAQs?)
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A.D. Fundum
2012-12-19 21:11:45 UTC
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Possibly FAQs:

1. What's the recommended software to view "modern" PDF files ,when
the OS/2 version of Adobe's products cannot process it ?

The documents may be press releases with financial informatoin, so a
maintained lay-out and images may be important, but it doesn't have to
be a perfect copy. I've tried a few packages, but those failed with
the first PDF document I've tried.

2. Assuming a PDF newspaper with a possible complicated lay-out, is
there a PDF parser?

The OS/2 version of Adobe's product is capable of processing the file,
but I'ld like to use my computer to retrieve certain data. At the
moment it's a PDF 1.4-file without recognizable text. I want to locate
"Paris" in the daily "Global weather"-article and display the
temperature. Some PDF2Text may not be accurate enough. That's not a
parser, the data isn't perfect (Paris may occur more than once) and
perhaps the lay-out has to be maintained to be able to parse it
reliably.


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Tom Perrett
2012-12-20 11:28:04 UTC
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Post by A.D. Fundum
1. What's the recommended software to view "modern" PDF files ,when
the OS/2 version of Adobe's products cannot process it ?
The documents may be press releases with financial informatoin, so a
maintained lay-out and images may be important, but it doesn't have to
be a perfect copy. I've tried a few packages, but those failed with
the first PDF document I've tried.
2. Assuming a PDF newspaper with a possible complicated lay-out, is
there a PDF parser?
The OS/2 version of Adobe's product is capable of processing the file,
but I'ld like to use my computer to retrieve certain data. At the
moment it's a PDF 1.4-file without recognizable text. I want to locate
"Paris" in the daily "Global weather"-article and display the
temperature. Some PDF2Text may not be accurate enough. That's not a
parser, the data isn't perfect (Paris may occur more than once) and
perhaps the lay-out has to be maintained to be able to parse it
reliably.
Lucide is your solution

http://svn.netlabs.org/lucide
Alex Taylor
2012-12-21 04:26:01 UTC
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Post by Tom Perrett
Post by A.D. Fundum
1. What's the recommended software to view "modern" PDF files ,when
the OS/2 version of Adobe's products cannot process it ?
Lucide is your solution
http://svn.netlabs.org/lucide
There's also Qpdfview: http://svn.netlabs.org/qtapps/wiki/QT4%20Office
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Alex Taylor
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Please take off hat when replying.
Barbara
2012-12-21 14:08:53 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 04:26:01 UTC, "Alex Taylor"
Post by Alex Taylor
Post by Tom Perrett
Post by A.D. Fundum
1. What's the recommended software to view "modern" PDF files ,when
the OS/2 version of Adobe's products cannot process it ?
Lucide is your solution
http://svn.netlabs.org/lucide
There's also Qpdfview: http://svn.netlabs.org/qtapps/wiki/QT4%20Office
Anybody used this?

Lucide usually works great for me, but two days ago I downloaded a PDF
manual for a new HDTV. Lucide loaded, displayed it just fine from the
Samsung website, but when I tried to save a copy, Lucide refused. This
could be called a "modern" PDF, 2013 TV model, 60 page document.

So, I booted windows, downloaded and saved the PDF using the Windows
Acrobat reader. Went back to eCS, and Lucide had no problem opening,
displaying, printing the pages I needed. What's with that anyway?
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Barbara
Mr. G
2012-12-21 16:46:22 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:08:53 UTC, "Barbara"
Post by Barbara
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 04:26:01 UTC, "Alex Taylor"
Post by Alex Taylor
Post by Tom Perrett
Post by A.D. Fundum
1. What's the recommended software to view "modern" PDF files ,when
the OS/2 version of Adobe's products cannot process it ?
Lucide is your solution
http://svn.netlabs.org/lucide
There's also Qpdfview: http://svn.netlabs.org/qtapps/wiki/QT4%20Office
Anybody used this?
Lucide usually works great for me, but two days ago I downloaded a PDF
manual for a new HDTV. Lucide loaded, displayed it just fine from the
Samsung website, but when I tried to save a copy, Lucide refused. This
could be called a "modern" PDF, 2013 TV model, 60 page document.
So, I booted windows, downloaded and saved the PDF using the Windows
Acrobat reader. Went back to eCS, and Lucide had no problem opening,
displaying, printing the pages I needed. What's with that anyway?
I've run into that before also. My solution was to change settings
in the browser to 'always ask' option instead of 'open with Lucide'
for pdf files. That way if Lucide won't save a file, I close Lucide,
click on the link in the web page again and choose the 'save file'
option instead of 'open with'. Choose your save location, then you
have a saved copy on disk. No need to boot to M$ or anything else.
Dave Saville
2012-12-21 16:54:34 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:46:22 UTC, "Mr. G" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:

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Post by Mr. G
I've run into that before also. My solution was to change settings
in the browser to 'always ask' option instead of 'open with Lucide'
for pdf files. That way if Lucide won't save a file, I close Lucide,
click on the link in the web page again and choose the 'save file'
option instead of 'open with'. Choose your save location, then you
have a saved copy on disk. No need to boot to M$ or anything else.
Does not matter if Lucide refuses to save - it will most likely be in
your tmp folder - Where do you think Lucide reads it from?
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Dave Saville
Mr. G
2012-12-21 19:48:02 UTC
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:54:34 UTC, "Dave Saville"
Post by Dave Saville
<snip>
Post by Mr. G
I've run into that before also. My solution was to change settings
in the browser to 'always ask' option instead of 'open with Lucide'
for pdf files. That way if Lucide won't save a file, I close Lucide,
click on the link in the web page again and choose the 'save file'
option instead of 'open with'. Choose your save location, then you
have a saved copy on disk. No need to boot to M$ or anything else.
Does not matter if Lucide refuses to save - it will most likely be in
your tmp folder - Where do you think Lucide reads it from?
True. I was trying to be on the safe side in case one forgets to
copy/move the file to a more permanent location and then deletes the
contents of temp dir. I personally delete the temp dir contents
daily.
Dave Yeo
2012-12-21 18:13:52 UTC
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Post by Mr. G
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:08:53 UTC, "Barbara"
Post by Barbara
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 04:26:01 UTC, "Alex Taylor"
Post by Alex Taylor
Post by Tom Perrett
Post by A.D. Fundum
1. What's the recommended software to view "modern" PDF files ,when
the OS/2 version of Adobe's products cannot process it ?
Lucide is your solution
http://svn.netlabs.org/lucide
There's also Qpdfview: http://svn.netlabs.org/qtapps/wiki/QT4%20Office
Anybody used this?
Lucide usually works great for me, but two days ago I downloaded a PDF
manual for a new HDTV. Lucide loaded, displayed it just fine from the
Samsung website, but when I tried to save a copy, Lucide refused. This
could be called a "modern" PDF, 2013 TV model, 60 page document.
So, I booted windows, downloaded and saved the PDF using the Windows
Acrobat reader. Went back to eCS, and Lucide had no problem opening,
displaying, printing the pages I needed. What's with that anyway?
I've run into that before also. My solution was to change settings
in the browser to 'always ask' option instead of 'open with Lucide'
for pdf files. That way if Lucide won't save a file, I close Lucide,
click on the link in the web page again and choose the 'save file'
option instead of 'open with'. Choose your save location, then you
have a saved copy on disk. No need to boot to M$ or anything else.
Just press shift while clicking the PDF link and the browser should
offer to download it. JavaScript might screw it up though.
Dave
Barbara
2012-12-21 23:09:42 UTC
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Post by Mr. G
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:08:53 UTC, "Barbara"
Post by Barbara
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 04:26:01 UTC, "Alex Taylor"
Post by Alex Taylor
Post by Tom Perrett
Post by A.D. Fundum
1. What's the recommended software to view "modern" PDF files ,when
the OS/2 version of Adobe's products cannot process it ?
Lucide is your solution
http://svn.netlabs.org/lucide
There's also Qpdfview: http://svn.netlabs.org/qtapps/wiki/QT4%20Office
Anybody used this?
Lucide usually works great for me, but two days ago I downloaded a PDF
manual for a new HDTV. Lucide loaded, displayed it just fine from the
Samsung website, but when I tried to save a copy, Lucide refused. This
could be called a "modern" PDF, 2013 TV model, 60 page document.
So, I booted windows, downloaded and saved the PDF using the Windows
Acrobat reader. Went back to eCS, and Lucide had no problem opening,
displaying, printing the pages I needed. What's with that anyway?
I've run into that before also. My solution was to change settings
in the browser to 'always ask' option instead of 'open with Lucide'
for pdf files. That way if Lucide won't save a file, I close Lucide,
click on the link in the web page again and choose the 'save file'
option instead of 'open with'. Choose your save location, then you
have a saved copy on disk. No need to boot to M$ or anything else.
Thanks! I should have thought of that. I guess the fact that Lucide
has no trouble with 99% of PDFs, it's a surprise when it gets fussy.
Maybe it's just with the big (60 page) files it doesn't like.
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Barbara
A.D. Fundum
2012-12-23 20:34:50 UTC
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Post by Tom Perrett
Lucide is your solution
http://svn.netlabs.org/lucide
Now FF crashes with all PDF files. What are all recommended FF
settings? I added Lucide to the options of pdf and x-pdf (both "Always
aks"), but a direct link to a PDF doesn't result in a dialog and
disabling the plug-in didn't help.


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Dave Yeo
2012-12-24 00:21:15 UTC
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Post by A.D. Fundum
Post by Tom Perrett
Lucide is your solution
http://svn.netlabs.org/lucide
Now FF crashes with all PDF files. What are all recommended FF
settings? I added Lucide to the options of pdf and x-pdf (both "Always
aks"), but a direct link to a PDF doesn't result in a dialog and
disabling the plug-in didn't help.
Try setting MOZ_NO_RWS=1
Dave
A.D. Fundum
2012-12-24 05:25:30 UTC
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Post by Dave Yeo
Try setting MOZ_NO_RWS=1
Thanks for the orders, doctors.

FTR: besides the DLLs in its main README, Lucide also requires at
least STDCPP.DLL, part of the GCC core distribution (running Lucide as
a stand-alone app already pointed that out).


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