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Marten Feldtmann
2017-05-23 09:28:11 UTC
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I've been an OS/2 fan since the OS/2 2.0 came out and actually I bought a new personal license of ArcaOS (to support this attempt)... but the reality is pretty hard:

Where is OpenOffice ? Its not installed and its not on the DVD installation medium. No information, where to download the program from ...

Firefox 38.x and Thunderbird are delivered with OS, even my HTML5 application seem to run under Firefox 38.x (thats a good sign)

-> I managed to run the software in a VirtualBox under Linux - but the sound driver (SoundBlaster) did not work ... ok not that important, network is working, but I was NOT able to see any other computer on my network ... therefore mount a remote drive seems to be impossible.

-> I tried out a Samsung NC10 laptop - on such a small laptop OS/2 would be fast and yes it is fast - but has no network (neither WLAN or ethernet). So I removed the installation

-> I tried out a ThinkPad T61p, but the installer fails due to a corrupt partition table on the harddisc and no chance to "delete" the partition (I was not allowed to do that ...)

-> I tried a new desktop system (8 core system with AMD CPU 83xx and GTX1080 graphics card). Here the installation fails - during the installation process he looses its SATA DVD-ROM drive.

Tried the installation again with an USB drive, but got the same error as with the T61p - corrupted partition table (on a new, empty SSD drive !) and no way to create a new volume).

So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never got a running system.
Paul Ratcliffe
2017-05-23 14:08:25 UTC
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On Tue, 23 May 2017 02:28:11 -0700 (PDT), Marten Feldtmann
<***@feldtmann.online> wrote:

I don't know about ArcaOS as I haven't tried it, but in general...
Post by Marten Feldtmann
-> I managed to run the software in a VirtualBox under Linux - but the
sound driver (SoundBlaster) did not work ...
I use Uniaud on my W4 guest and PulseAudio/Intel HD Audio on the host
(ALSA stopped working a couple of VirtualBox upgrades ago for some
reason).
Post by Marten Feldtmann
but I was NOT able to see any other computer on my network ... therefore
mount a remote drive seems to be impossible.
I can see remote machines and can connect to them (it's just a matter of
sorting out the usual settings and incompatibilities between various OS's).
OS/2 to XP works as does OS/2 to Linux. You can forget OS/2 to Win 7 or
later.
I don't know what the state is of Samba on ArcaOS though. I know there
was work going on with it.
Dave Yeo
2017-05-23 15:07:12 UTC
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Post by Paul Ratcliffe
I don't know what the state is of Samba on ArcaOS though. I know there
was work going on with it.
Samba has been updated and _should_ be able to connect to Win 7 and later
Dave
unknown
2017-06-01 01:11:43 UTC
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Hello Paul!

23 May 17 08:08, you wrote to all:

PR> I can see remote machines and can connect to them (it's just a matter
PR> of sorting out the usual settings and incompatibilities between
PR> various OS's). OS/2 to XP works as does OS/2 to Linux. You can forget
PR> OS/2 to Win 7 or later. I don't know what the state is of Samba on
PR> ArcaOS though. I know there was work going on with it.

There is actually an update posted on os2world.com about the latest version of
Samba for OS/2. I installed it here and it works so far so good.

Robert

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Marten Feldtmann
2017-05-27 17:45:20 UTC
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Well - at last a working OS/2 computer.

I wiped out the SSD totally and then did an install on a 8-core AMD based computer on an Asus motherboard:

- AMD 83xx core CPU
- sound driver working
- network driver working
- panaroma screen drivers running at 4k under 1080GTX

Then OS/2 is running pretty nice.

Then I installed IBM VisualAge for Smalltalk under OS/2 and it worked as good as in the year around 2000.
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2017-06-03 15:50:13 UTC
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Hello Marten.

26 May 17 21:45, you wrote to all:

MF> Well - at last a working OS/2 computer.

MF> I wiped out the SSD totally and then did an install on a 8-core AMD
MF> based computer on an Asus motherboard:

MF> - AMD 83xx core CPU
MF> - sound driver working
MF> - network driver working
MF> - panaroma screen drivers running at 4k under 1080GTX

MF> Then OS/2 is running pretty nice.

MF> Then I installed IBM VisualAge for Smalltalk under OS/2 and it worked
MF> as good as in the year around 2000.

Good stuff! :)

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Paul Smedley
2017-05-27 22:24:14 UTC
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Hey Paul,
Post by Paul Ratcliffe
On Tue, 23 May 2017 02:28:11 -0700 (PDT), Marten Feldtmann
I don't know what the state is of Samba on ArcaOS though. I know there
was work going on with it.
A plugin based on Samba 4.5.x is included.

Cheers,

Paul
James J. Weinkam
2017-06-26 07:52:04 UTC
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Post by Paul Smedley
Hey Paul,
Post by Paul Ratcliffe
On Tue, 23 May 2017 02:28:11 -0700 (PDT), Marten Feldtmann
I don't know what the state is of Samba on ArcaOS though. I know there
was work going on with it.
A plugin based on Samba 4.5.x is included.
Cheers,
Paul
Has anyone succeeded in getting the Samba server that comes with ArcaOS to work? I have tried everything I can think of
on two different systems without success. The client works fine. In fact, it successfully connects to Windows 10, a
first. I imagine it will also work with Windows 7 or 8 but I have no means of testing this.

The server will not run. The smbd.exe demon starts and runs ok. The nmbd.exe demon starts and exits after a few seconds.
Almost but no cigar.

Here are the messages I get when I try to start the server from a command window:

[D:\Programs\Samba]smb.cmd start
Configuring SMB services using b4smb.cmd
DHCP for LAN0 not recommended for Samba, waiting...
zip warning: name not matched: 046
zip warning: name not matched: D:\MPTN\ETC\samba\log\log.winb*
adding: log.nmbd (160 bytes EA's) (deflated 58%)
adding: log.smbd (160 bytes EA's) (deflated 96%)
adding: log.smbd.shtdn (deflated 62%)
DHCPSTRT: Waiting for DHCP client.(maximum wait = 60 seconds)
b4smb done.
Starting SMB services
SMBD: The Process Identification Number is 302.
NMBD: The Process Identification Number is 303.
Warning! nmbd.exe apparently stopped.
Done.

Trying to bypass DHCP and use a fixed ip address is even worse..
LSoens
2017-06-26 17:49:27 UTC
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Post by James J. Weinkam
Has anyone succeeded in getting the Samba server that comes with ArcaOS to work?
Add a line "workgroup = WORKGROUP" (w/o the quotes, if it's that) on
top of your "globals" section of smb.conf. And repeat when you ever
dared to call the configuration center again...
Did the trick here, works fine to W10, eCS, Linux (and client back),
fix IP's.here.

Good luck
Lothar
James J. Weinkam
2017-06-28 22:19:48 UTC
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Post by James J. Weinkam
Post by Paul Smedley
Hey Paul,
Post by Paul Ratcliffe
On Tue, 23 May 2017 02:28:11 -0700 (PDT), Marten Feldtmann
I don't know what the state is of Samba on ArcaOS though. I know there
was work going on with it.
A plugin based on Samba 4.5.x is included.
Cheers,
Paul
Has anyone succeeded in getting the Samba server that comes with ArcaOS to work? I have tried everything I can think of
on two different systems without success. The client works fine. In fact, it successfully connects to Windows 10, a
first. I imagine it will also work with Windows 7 or 8 but I have no means of testing this.
The server will not run. The smbd.exe demon starts and runs ok. The nmbd.exe demon starts and exits after a few seconds.
Almost but no cigar.
[D:\Programs\Samba]smb.cmd start
Configuring SMB services using b4smb.cmd
DHCP for LAN0 not recommended for Samba, waiting...
zip warning: name not matched: 046
zip warning: name not matched: D:\MPTN\ETC\samba\log\log.winb*
adding: log.nmbd (160 bytes EA's) (deflated 58%)
adding: log.smbd (160 bytes EA's) (deflated 96%)
adding: log.smbd.shtdn (deflated 62%)
DHCPSTRT: Waiting for DHCP client.(maximum wait = 60 seconds)
b4smb done.
Starting SMB services
SMBD: The Process Identification Number is 302.
NMBD: The Process Identification Number is 303.
Warning! nmbd.exe apparently stopped.
Done.
Trying to bypass DHCP and use a fixed ip address is even worse..
Found the problem. It has been 2-1/2 years since I have done an install and I seem to have forgotten some of the
details. NETBIOS over TCPIP is only needed for IBM peer networking and is a nono with Samba. I have now successfully
installed ArcaOS on my desktop ASUS Z97-K motherboard and on my T60 widescreen laptop. Samba works and can connect to
Windows 10.
Pete
2017-05-23 20:47:53 UTC
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Hi Marten
Post by Marten Feldtmann
Where is OpenOffice ? Its not installed and its not on the DVD installation medium. No information, where to download the program from ...
Is it supposed to be included with the OS? - If so we have all been
"done" ;-)

You need to contact the guys at https://www.bitwiseworks.com/ to get a
download link for OO - I seem to recall it requires a small donation.
Post by Marten Feldtmann
Firefox 38.x and Thunderbird are delivered with OS, even my HTML5 application seem to run under Firefox 38.x (thats a good sign)
-> I managed to run the software in a VirtualBox under Linux - but the sound driver (SoundBlaster) did not work ... ok not that important, network is working, but I was NOT able to see any other computer on my network ... therefore mount a remote drive seems to be impossible.
-> I tried out a Samsung NC10 laptop - on such a small laptop OS/2 would be fast and yes it is fast - but has no network (neither WLAN or ethernet). So I removed the installation
-> I tried out a ThinkPad T61p, but the installer fails due to a corrupt partition table on the harddisc and no chance to "delete" the partition (I was not allowed to do that ...)
-> I tried a new desktop system (8 core system with AMD CPU 83xx and GTX1080 graphics card). Here the installation fails - during the installation process he looses its SATA DVD-ROM drive.
Tried the installation again with an USB drive, but got the same error as with the T61p - corrupted partition table (on a new, empty SSD drive !) and no way to create a new volume).
So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never got a running system.
I had a semi-successful install to a Dell Latitude E5500 laptop: The
install (Custom with lots deselected) went fairly well and the system
works but the "semi" bit is that there was no Intel (Dell) 5100 wireless
driver and cups printing does not work.

As this laptop had previously had another OS/2 variant, eComStation,
installed I already knew that I needed to have the nic driver to hand to
add in after the install. Now working.

As for cups not working the answer is to uninstall cups, ghostscript and
gutenprint - using the ANPM (Arca Noae Package Manager front end for
yum/rpm, found in Install/Remove folder) - and then install the
"non-rpm" cups/ghostscript/gutenprint files from
http://trac.netlabs.org/ecups/wiki/CupsPort


Could be worth posting your install problems at os2world.com - good
chance that there are answers to the various install problems
encountered on the range of hardware you tried.


Regards

Pete
sctvguy1
2017-05-24 17:30:29 UTC
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Post by Pete
Hi Marten
Post by Marten Feldtmann
I've been an OS/2 fan since the OS/2 2.0 came out and actually I bought
a new personal license of ArcaOS (to support this attempt)... but the
Where is OpenOffice ? Its not installed and its not on the DVD
installation medium. No information, where to download the program from
...
Is it supposed to be included with the OS? - If so we have all been
"done" ;-)
You need to contact the guys at https://www.bitwiseworks.com/ to get a
download link for OO - I seem to recall it requires a small donation.
I ordered my copy Saturday, hoping all will go well on my new-to-me
Thinkpad T430. I will use my old copy of Lotus Smart Suite, the native
OS/2 word processor, or my even older copy of IBM Works.
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madodel ptd News
2017-05-24 00:26:36 UTC
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Post by Marten Feldtmann
Where is OpenOffice ? Its not installed and its not on the DVD installation medium. No information, where to download the program from ...
Firefox 38.x and Thunderbird are delivered with OS, even my HTML5 application seem to run under Firefox 38.x (thats a good sign)
-> I managed to run the software in a VirtualBox under Linux - but the sound driver (SoundBlaster) did not work ... ok not that important, network is working, but I was NOT able to see any other computer on my network ... therefore mount a remote drive seems to be impossible.
I have ArcaOS 5.0 running under VBox for Mac. Haven't done much but got
sound to work by switching to the ICH AC97 Audio under VBox settings. When
I find time I have a few older Thinkpads (T42p, T61, and an X201) I'm going
to try, but for me the problem is the lack of WiFi support. I've been told
that better Wireless drivers are in the plan, but effort has been focused
on getting the basics done. Have to say this was the easiest OS/2 install
(other than the audio issue which was quickly rectified) that I have ever done.

Mark
sctvguy1
2017-06-01 17:57:05 UTC
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Post by madodel ptd News
I have ArcaOS 5.0 running under VBox for Mac. Haven't done much but got
sound to work by switching to the ICH AC97 Audio under VBox settings.
When I find time I have a few older Thinkpads (T42p, T61, and an X201)
I'm going to try, but for me the problem is the lack of WiFi support.
I've been told that better Wireless drivers are in the plan, but effort
has been focused on getting the basics done. Have to say this was the
easiest OS/2 install (other than the audio issue which was quickly
rectified) that I have ever done.
Mark
Yes, the installation went much better than my eComStation 21. I, too,
really need them to support wireless quickly! I have all Thinkpads and
IBM boxes. The Thinkpads, 2T400's and one T430, all have the Intel
wireless, usually the 5100 card. Now, I am using Ethernet cable, kind of
a hassle.
Pete
2017-06-02 22:10:09 UTC
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Hi
Post by sctvguy1
Post by madodel ptd News
I have ArcaOS 5.0 running under VBox for Mac. Haven't done much but got
sound to work by switching to the ICH AC97 Audio under VBox settings.
When I find time I have a few older Thinkpads (T42p, T61, and an X201)
I'm going to try, but for me the problem is the lack of WiFi support.
I've been told that better Wireless drivers are in the plan, but effort
has been focused on getting the basics done. Have to say this was the
easiest OS/2 install (other than the audio issue which was quickly
rectified) that I have ever done.
Mark
Yes, the installation went much better than my eComStation 21. I, too,
really need them to support wireless quickly! I have all Thinkpads and
IBM boxes. The Thinkpads, 2T400's and one T430, all have the Intel
wireless, usually the 5100 card. Now, I am using Ethernet cable, kind of
a hassle.
I have an Intel (Dell) 5100, device IDs 8086:4232, working fine in my
Dell E5500 laptop with ArcaOS - but it was a PITA getting it to work. I
made some notes a little later in case a reinstall is necessary in the
future.


ArcaOS5.0 - resolving missing wireless nic support for Intel (Dell) 5100
a/g/n 8086:4232


Things to check for problems:
\ibmcom\lantran.log
\ibmcom\protocol.ini
and also check the genmac log

Due to the problems I bumped into trying to get the Intel 5100 working I
ended up reinstalling ArcaOS several times. These are the steps I needed
to take to get an Intel (Dell) 5100 wireless nic working - hopefully I
have not missed anything out.

1] During ArcaOS Reinstall select a genmac wireless nic to install.
Reason: All required supporting software gets installed at this point -
it is far more difficult to get xwlan, dhclient etc working by
installing later.

2] When the ArcaOS install has finished you need to use Warpin
(Install/Uninstall folder) to remove genmac - do not worry about the
driver, leave that alone.

3] Install genmac from the GENMAC2.WPI package - not sure if this is
available online so do not have a download link. I lifted this version
from the eComStation2.2beta2 DVD (\CID\SERVER\ECSPKG\GENMAC2.WPI).

4] Install the w8086x4232 driver from GENMU_TEST-0-2-7.WPI then check
that the w8086x4232.nif file is correct - the w8086:4232.nif file I used
had some mistakes showing as 4332 instead of 4232 in several places
which would prevent the driver loading. I seem to recall editing the
genmac\nif\w8086x4232.nif then copying the file to \ibmcom\macs
overwriting the existing 8086x4232.nif file.

5] Use Adapters and Protocols (System Setup -> Network folder) to
*Change* the nic to the correct nic - also check you have required
Protocol(s) in place.

6] Reboot - check for driver loading OK, should be a message like "...
loaded for [8086:4232]"

With luck all should now work and you should now be able to use the
wireless client software installed by ArcaOS - as long as you selected a
wireless nic to start with.


Regards

Pete
sctvguy1
2017-06-03 00:21:30 UTC
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Post by Pete
Hi
Post by sctvguy1
Post by madodel ptd News
I have ArcaOS 5.0 running under VBox for Mac. Haven't done much but
got sound to work by switching to the ICH AC97 Audio under VBox
settings. When I find time I have a few older Thinkpads (T42p, T61,
and an X201) I'm going to try, but for me the problem is the lack of
WiFi support. I've been told that better Wireless drivers are in the
plan, but effort has been focused on getting the basics done. Have to
say this was the easiest OS/2 install (other than the audio issue
which was quickly rectified) that I have ever done.
Mark
Yes, the installation went much better than my eComStation 21. I, too,
really need them to support wireless quickly! I have all Thinkpads and
IBM boxes. The Thinkpads, 2T400's and one T430, all have the Intel
wireless, usually the 5100 card. Now, I am using Ethernet cable, kind
of a hassle.
I have an Intel (Dell) 5100, device IDs 8086:4232, working fine in my
Dell E5500 laptop with ArcaOS - but it was a PITA getting it to work. I
made some notes a little later in case a reinstall is necessary in the
future.
ArcaOS5.0 - resolving missing wireless nic support for Intel (Dell) 5100
a/g/n 8086:4232
\ibmcom\lantran.log
\ibmcom\protocol.ini
and also check the genmac log
Due to the problems I bumped into trying to get the Intel 5100 working I
ended up reinstalling ArcaOS several times. These are the steps I needed
to take to get an Intel (Dell) 5100 wireless nic working - hopefully I
have not missed anything out.
1] During ArcaOS Reinstall select a genmac wireless nic to install.
Reason: All required supporting software gets installed at this point -
it is far more difficult to get xwlan, dhclient etc working by
installing later.
2] When the ArcaOS install has finished you need to use Warpin
(Install/Uninstall folder) to remove genmac - do not worry about the
driver, leave that alone.
3] Install genmac from the GENMAC2.WPI package - not sure if this is
available online so do not have a download link. I lifted this version
from the eComStation2.2beta2 DVD (\CID\SERVER\ECSPKG\GENMAC2.WPI).
4] Install the w8086x4232 driver from GENMU_TEST-0-2-7.WPI then check
that the w8086x4232.nif file is correct - the w8086:4232.nif file I used
had some mistakes showing as 4332 instead of 4232 in several places
which would prevent the driver loading. I seem to recall editing the
genmac\nif\w8086x4232.nif then copying the file to \ibmcom\macs
overwriting the existing 8086x4232.nif file.
5] Use Adapters and Protocols (System Setup -> Network folder) to
*Change* the nic to the correct nic - also check you have required
Protocol(s) in place.
6] Reboot - check for driver loading OK, should be a message like "...
loaded for [8086:4232]"
With luck all should now work and you should now be able to use the
wireless client software installed by ArcaOS - as long as you selected a
wireless nic to start with.
Regards
Pete
Thanks Pete,
This kind of problem should be resolved simply without going through this
type of hassle! I am reminded about how difficult it was to get
networking in OS/2 Warp Connect without an Etherlink card! Hopefully,
ArcaOS will take care of this automatically with an upgrade.
T.
2017-06-03 09:51:44 UTC
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Post by sctvguy1
This kind of problem should be resolved simply without going through this
type of hassle!
sure, but then GenMAC is not the solution!

Since many years, it is not developed anymore and the 5100 is an
unsupported device, good luck when you got this particular
device-/vendor-id up and running, but mostly it will not work.

Unfortunately the successor MultiMAC does not support any Wifi right now.
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sctvguy1
2017-06-11 03:29:58 UTC
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Post by T.
Post by sctvguy1
This kind of problem should be resolved simply without going through this
type of hassle!
sure, but then GenMAC is not the solution!
Since many years, it is not developed anymore and the 5100 is an
unsupported device, good luck when you got this particular
device-/vendor-id up and running, but mostly it will not work.
Unfortunately the successor MultiMAC does not support any Wifi right now.
I would think that ArcaOS would support IBM/Thinkpad/Intel cards right OOB!
Doug Bissett
2017-06-12 02:41:37 UTC
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Post by sctvguy1
Post by T.
Post by sctvguy1
This kind of problem should be resolved simply without going through this
type of hassle!
sure, but then GenMAC is not the solution!
Since many years, it is not developed anymore and the 5100 is an
unsupported device, good luck when you got this particular
device-/vendor-id up and running, but mostly it will not work.
Unfortunately the successor MultiMAC does not support any Wifi right now.
I would think that ArcaOS would support IBM/Thinkpad/Intel cards right OOB!
They do, as long as you have a currently supported card.
Unfortunately, current cards are not, yet, supported.
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unknown
2017-06-01 01:08:53 UTC
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Hello Marten!

22 May 17 13:28, you wrote to all:

MF> From: Marten Feldtmann <***@feldtmann.online>

MF> I've been an OS/2 fan since the OS/2 2.0 came out and actually I
MF> bought a n= ew personal license of ArcaOS (to support this attempt)...
MF> but the reality = is pretty hard:

MF> Where is OpenOffice ? Its not installed and its not on the DVD
MF> installation= medium. No information, where to download the program
MF> from ...

If you have an eCS subscription (like I did), you can use OpenOffice from that
(still have my CD with OpenOffice on it around here somewhere, just haven't
installed it yet).

MF> Firefox 38.x and Thunderbird are delivered with OS, even my HTML5
MF> applicati= on seem to run under Firefox 38.x (thats a good sign)

Plus I think they recently released an update to the OS/2 port of Firefox.

MF> -> I managed to run the software in a VirtualBox under Linux - but the
MF> soun= d driver (SoundBlaster) did not work ... ok not that important,

I run all three of my ArcaOS 5 installs under the Windows version of VirtualBox
and Windows 7 Pro 64 bit.

MF> network is = working, but I was NOT able to see any other computer on
MF> my network ... the= refore mount a remote drive seems to be
MF> impossible.

Actually, with the new Samba for OS/2 update installed, I WAS able to see the
SMB mounts on my Windows machines on my network.
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Peter J. Seymour
2017-06-03 06:37:49 UTC
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Post by Marten Feldtmann
...
So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never got a running system.
Just to be different, ArcaOS installs easily on my T61, but I get a
random hang at the startup folder. It seems to depend partly on what is
in the folder.
Doug Bissett
2017-06-04 00:20:58 UTC
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On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 06:37:49 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Marten Feldtmann
...
So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never got a running system.
Just to be different, ArcaOS installs easily on my T61, but I get a
random hang at the startup folder. It seems to depend partly on what is
in the folder.
I have had that problem, for years. If there are more than about 4
items in the startup foldder, and they all try to start at the same
time that all of the RUN commands in CONFIG.SYS, and the STARTUP.CMD,
try to start, something will go wrong. he best answer, that I have
found is to iuse REXX AutoStart to space out the contents of the
Post by Peter J. Seymour
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/wps/rxast1911.exe
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Peter J. Seymour
2017-06-04 08:24:37 UTC
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Post by Doug Bissett
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 06:37:49 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Marten Feldtmann
...
So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never got a running system.
Just to be different, ArcaOS installs easily on my T61, but I get a
random hang at the startup folder. It seems to depend partly on what is
in the folder.
I have had that problem, for years. If there are more than about 4
items in the startup foldder, and they all try to start at the same
time that all of the RUN commands in CONFIG.SYS, and the STARTUP.CMD,
try to start, something will go wrong. he best answer, that I have
found is to iuse REXX AutoStart to space out the contents of the
Post by Peter J. Seymour
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/wps/rxast1911.exe
Thanks, that seems to work fine. I am now in the same position as other
people where wifi used to work with ECS 2.2 but does not now.
Doug Bissett
2017-06-04 14:24:11 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 08:24:37 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Doug Bissett
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 06:37:49 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Marten Feldtmann
...
So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never got a running system.
Just to be different, ArcaOS installs easily on my T61, but I get a
random hang at the startup folder. It seems to depend partly on what is
in the folder.
I have had that problem, for years. If there are more than about 4
items in the startup foldder, and they all try to start at the same
time that all of the RUN commands in CONFIG.SYS, and the STARTUP.CMD,
try to start, something will go wrong. he best answer, that I have
found is to iuse REXX AutoStart to space out the contents of the
Post by Peter J. Seymour
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/wps/rxast1911.exe
Thanks, that seems to work fine. I am now in the same position as other
people where wifi used to work with ECS 2.2 but does not now.
Which adapter, and what are the symptoms? Many GENMAC drivers have
been operating on the hairy edge of disaster for a long time, and
chances are that ArcaOS uses more resources, leaving GENMAC short.
Some settings adjustment may be possible, or a different windows
driver might work.
--
From the eComStation of Doug Bissett
dougb007 at telus dot net
(Please make the obvious changes, to e-mail me)
Peter J. Seymour
2017-06-05 09:51:32 UTC
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Post by Doug Bissett
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 08:24:37 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Doug Bissett
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 06:37:49 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Marten Feldtmann
...
So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never got a running system.
Just to be different, ArcaOS installs easily on my T61, but I get a
random hang at the startup folder. It seems to depend partly on what is
in the folder.
I have had that problem, for years. If there are more than about 4
items in the startup foldder, and they all try to start at the same
time that all of the RUN commands in CONFIG.SYS, and the STARTUP.CMD,
try to start, something will go wrong. he best answer, that I have
found is to iuse REXX AutoStart to space out the contents of the
Post by Peter J. Seymour
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/wps/rxast1911.exe
Thanks, that seems to work fine. I am now in the same position as other
people where wifi used to work with ECS 2.2 but does not now.
Which adapter, and what are the symptoms? Many GENMAC drivers have
been operating on the hairy edge of disaster for a long time, and
chances are that ArcaOS uses more resources, leaving GENMAC short.
Some settings adjustment may be possible, or a different windows
driver might work.
It is correctly identified as Intel 3945 a/b/g. Nothing happens when I
try to enable radio from the properties menu (and some of the menu items
that were available under ECS are showing grayed out). Then when I try
to go back into the menu, the whole apps bar closes and disappears. I
don't know what adjustments might be feasible. For instance, if I change
the NIF file, the boot process complains about no suitable hardware.
Andi B.
2017-06-05 12:01:31 UTC
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It is correctly identified as Intel 3945 a/b/g. Nothing happens when I try to enable radio
from the properties menu (and some of the menu items that were available under ECS are
showing grayed out). Then when I try to go back into the menu, the whole apps bar closes
and disappears. I don't know what adjustments might be feasible. For instance, if I change
the NIF file, the boot process complains about no suitable hardware.
You know the troubleshooting guide here -
http://trac.netlabs.org/xwlan/browser/trunk/src/ship/readme.txt ?

There are circumstances where xwlan widget crashes and doing so takes the whole xcenter
down too. In such case I usually take wlanstat instead the widget until my settings and
profiles are correct. You need to delete the widget in xcenter when doing that.

If you need further assistance in setting up your wireless connection please tell at which
number in the troubleshooting guide you're stuck. Guess number 1 - 4 are okay in your
case, correct?

Regards, Andi
Peter J. Seymour
2017-06-07 10:08:30 UTC
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Post by Andi B.
Post by Peter J. Seymour
....
It is correctly identified as Intel 3945 a/b/g. Nothing happens when I
try to enable radio
from the properties menu (and some of the menu items that were available under ECS are
showing grayed out). Then when I try to go back into the menu, the whole apps bar closes
and disappears. I don't know what adjustments might be feasible. For
instance, if I change
the NIF file, the boot process complains about no suitable hardware.
You know the troubleshooting guide here -
http://trac.netlabs.org/xwlan/browser/trunk/src/ship/readme.txt ?
There are circumstances where xwlan widget crashes and doing so takes
the whole xcenter down too. In such case I usually take wlanstat instead
the widget until my settings and profiles are correct. You need to
delete the widget in xcenter when doing that.
If you need further assistance in setting up your wireless connection
please tell at which number in the troubleshooting guide you're stuck.
Guess number 1 - 4 are okay in your case, correct?
Regards, Andi
I have followed through these checkpoints and I have also verified that
the relevant files are the same versions as used in ECS.
And having corrected an error in the security key, I now have wifi
working under ArcaOS. So it was simple in the end. I guess I was
distracted by the way the wifi only closes down if it finds something it
does not understand.
Thanks for the help.
Andi B.
2017-06-07 18:58:22 UTC
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Post by Andi B.
....
It is correctly identified as Intel 3945 a/b/g. Nothing happens when I try to enable radio
from the properties menu (and some of the menu items that were available under ECS are
showing grayed out). Then when I try to go back into the menu, the whole apps bar closes
and disappears. I don't know what adjustments might be feasible. For instance, if I change
the NIF file, the boot process complains about no suitable hardware.
You know the troubleshooting guide here -
http://trac.netlabs.org/xwlan/browser/trunk/src/ship/readme.txt ?
There are circumstances where xwlan widget crashes and doing so takes the whole xcenter
down too. In such case I usually take wlanstat instead the widget until my settings and
profiles are correct. You need to delete the widget in xcenter when doing that.
If you need further assistance in setting up your wireless connection please tell at
which number in the troubleshooting guide you're stuck. Guess number 1 - 4 are okay in
your case, correct?
Regards, Andi
I have followed through these checkpoints and I have also verified that the relevant files
are the same versions as used in ECS.
And having corrected an error in the security key, I now have wifi working under ArcaOS.
So it was simple in the end. I guess I was distracted by the way the wifi only closes down
if it finds something it does not understand.
Thanks for the help.
Sorry for that. I discovered this bug only 2 months ago -
http://trac.netlabs.org/xwlan/ticket/37

Guess you've a similar entry in popuplog.os2, do you?

Regards
Peter J. Seymour
2017-06-08 07:00:53 UTC
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Post by Andi B.
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Andi B.
Post by Peter J. Seymour
....
It is correctly identified as Intel 3945 a/b/g. Nothing happens when
I try to enable radio
from the properties menu (and some of the menu items that were
available under ECS are
showing grayed out). Then when I try to go back into the menu, the
whole apps bar closes
and disappears. I don't know what adjustments might be feasible. For
instance, if I change
the NIF file, the boot process complains about no suitable hardware.
You know the troubleshooting guide here -
http://trac.netlabs.org/xwlan/browser/trunk/src/ship/readme.txt ?
There are circumstances where xwlan widget crashes and doing so takes the whole xcenter
down too. In such case I usually take wlanstat instead the widget until my settings and
profiles are correct. You need to delete the widget in xcenter when doing that.
If you need further assistance in setting up your wireless connection please tell at
which number in the troubleshooting guide you're stuck. Guess number 1 - 4 are okay in
your case, correct?
Regards, Andi
I have followed through these checkpoints and I have also verified
that the relevant files
are the same versions as used in ECS.
And having corrected an error in the security key, I now have wifi working under ArcaOS.
So it was simple in the end. I guess I was distracted by the way the
wifi only closes down
if it finds something it does not understand.
Thanks for the help.
Sorry for that. I discovered this bug only 2 months ago -
http://trac.netlabs.org/xwlan/ticket/37
Guess you've a similar entry in popuplog.os2, do you?
Regards
Correct (actually lots of them all the same).
Doug Bissett
2017-06-05 23:13:30 UTC
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On Mon, 5 Jun 2017 09:51:32 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Doug Bissett
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 08:24:37 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Doug Bissett
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 06:37:49 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Marten Feldtmann
...
So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never got a running system.
Just to be different, ArcaOS installs easily on my T61, but I get a
random hang at the startup folder. It seems to depend partly on what is
in the folder.
I have had that problem, for years. If there are more than about 4
items in the startup foldder, and they all try to start at the same
time that all of the RUN commands in CONFIG.SYS, and the STARTUP.CMD,
try to start, something will go wrong. he best answer, that I have
found is to iuse REXX AutoStart to space out the contents of the
Post by Peter J. Seymour
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/wps/rxast1911.exe
Thanks, that seems to work fine. I am now in the same position as other
people where wifi used to work with ECS 2.2 but does not now.
Which adapter, and what are the symptoms? Many GENMAC drivers have
been operating on the hairy edge of disaster for a long time, and
chances are that ArcaOS uses more resources, leaving GENMAC short.
Some settings adjustment may be possible, or a different windows
driver might work.
It is correctly identified as Intel 3945 a/b/g. Nothing happens when I
try to enable radio from the properties menu (and some of the menu items
that were available under ECS are showing grayed out). Then when I try
to go back into the menu, the whole apps bar closes and disappears. I
don't know what adjustments might be feasible. For instance, if I change
the NIF file, the boot process complains about no suitable hardware.
The 3945 is one that does operate near the limit, and the symptoms
sound like the driver overlay problem. I am not sure what can be done
about that, other than to edit the INI, or registry, file to reduce
memory usage (fewer buffers, and the like). I am away from home, and i
don't have the details with me. Just be sure to keep an original copy
so you can get back to where you started.
--
From the eComStation of Doug Bissett
dougb007 at telus dot net
(Please make the obvious changes, to e-mail me)
Pete
2017-06-06 04:07:58 UTC
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Hi Peter
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Doug Bissett
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 08:24:37 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Doug Bissett
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 06:37:49 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Marten Feldtmann
I've been an OS/2 fan since the OS/2 2.0 came out and actually I
bought a new personal license of ArcaOS (to support this
...
So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never
got a running system.
Just to be different, ArcaOS installs easily on my T61, but I get a
random hang at the startup folder. It seems to depend partly on what is
in the folder.
I have had that problem, for years. If there are more than about 4
items in the startup foldder, and they all try to start at the same
time that all of the RUN commands in CONFIG.SYS, and the STARTUP.CMD,
try to start, something will go wrong. he best answer, that I have
found is to iuse REXX AutoStart to space out the contents of the
Post by Peter J. Seymour
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/wps/rxast1911.exe
Thanks, that seems to work fine. I am now in the same position as other
people where wifi used to work with ECS 2.2 but does not now.
Which adapter, and what are the symptoms? Many GENMAC drivers have
been operating on the hairy edge of disaster for a long time, and
chances are that ArcaOS uses more resources, leaving GENMAC short.
Some settings adjustment may be possible, or a different windows
driver might work.
It is correctly identified as Intel 3945 a/b/g. Nothing happens when I
try to enable radio from the properties menu (and some of the menu items
that were available under ECS are showing grayed out). Then when I try
to go back into the menu, the whole apps bar closes and disappears. I
don't know what adjustments might be feasible. For instance, if I change
the NIF file, the boot process complains about no suitable hardware.
You may want to check that the Intel 3945 driver used by ArcaOS is the
same driver that you previously had working in eCS.

If it is not you want to change the ArcaOS driver for the previous driver.

I also found it useful to change the genmac package. People post there
is no difference between genmac220 and genmac221 but the 221 version
(eCS2.2) works for me and the 220 version (ArcaOS) did not - possibly
because I was installing a driver not supplied with ArcaOS.


Regards

Pete
sctvguy1
2017-06-11 03:26:30 UTC
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Post by Pete
Hi Peter
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Doug Bissett
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 08:24:37 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Doug Bissett
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 06:37:49 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
Post by Peter J. Seymour
Post by Marten Feldtmann
I've been an OS/2 fan since the OS/2 2.0 came out and actually I
bought a new personal license of ArcaOS (to support this
...
So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never
got a running system.
Just to be different, ArcaOS installs easily on my T61, but I get a
random hang at the startup folder. It seems to depend partly on what is
in the folder.
I have had that problem, for years. If there are more than about 4
items in the startup foldder, and they all try to start at the same
time that all of the RUN commands in CONFIG.SYS, and the STARTUP.CMD,
try to start, something will go wrong. he best answer, that I have
found is to iuse REXX AutoStart to space out the contents of the
Post by Peter J. Seymour
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/wps/rxast1911.exe
Thanks, that seems to work fine. I am now in the same position as other
people where wifi used to work with ECS 2.2 but does not now.
Which adapter, and what are the symptoms? Many GENMAC drivers have
been operating on the hairy edge of disaster for a long time, and
chances are that ArcaOS uses more resources, leaving GENMAC short.
Some settings adjustment may be possible, or a different windows
driver might work.
It is correctly identified as Intel 3945 a/b/g. Nothing happens when I
try to enable radio from the properties menu (and some of the menu items
that were available under ECS are showing grayed out). Then when I try
to go back into the menu, the whole apps bar closes and disappears. I
don't know what adjustments might be feasible. For instance, if I change
the NIF file, the boot process complains about no suitable hardware.
You may want to check that the Intel 3945 driver used by ArcaOS is the
same driver that you previously had working in eCS.
If it is not you want to change the ArcaOS driver for the previous driver.
I also found it useful to change the genmac package. People post there
is no difference between genmac220 and genmac221 but the 221 version
(eCS2.2) works for me and the 220 version (ArcaOS) did not - possibly
because I was installing a driver not supplied with ArcaOS.
Regards
Pete
What will work with the Intel 5100 wifi cards? I have two Thinkpads, a
T400 and T430. Will Arca ever release wifi drivers for these? They
work perfectly under Centos 6.8.
T.
2017-06-11 10:37:31 UTC
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Post by sctvguy1
What will work with the Intel 5100 wifi cards? I have two Thinkpads, a
T400 and T430. Will Arca ever release wifi drivers for these?
may be, they should do so, but right now, the latest Intel Wifi
supported by OS/2 is the 3945ABG (at least some models by unsupported
GenMAC).
Post by sctvguy1
They work perfectly under Centos 6.8.
OS/2 (or eCS or ArcaOS) probably never will run as good as any Linux on
such "modern" systems, so stay with Linux.

If you really want a mostly OS/2-campatible notebook, you have to use a
ThinkPad T42 or T60, most T43 and T61 also will work, same for the X-series.

Nevertheless most applications are outdated, the ports are not that
stable and/or functional than the ones on Linux ...
--
Gruesse,

Thorolf
Pete
2017-06-12 00:27:02 UTC
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Hi
Post by sctvguy1
What will work with the Intel 5100 wifi cards? I have two Thinkpads, a
T400 and T430. Will Arca ever release wifi drivers for these? They
work perfectly under Centos 6.8.
I certainly hope that Arca release wifi drivers in the near future -
should make it easier to get things working rather than fiddling around
with genmac.

I did post my simple "howto" getting the Intel 5100 working earlier in
this thread...

If you need the driver pack I used send me an email.


Regards

Pete
sctvguy1
2017-06-15 21:33:54 UTC
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Post by Pete
Hi
Post by sctvguy1
What will work with the Intel 5100 wifi cards? I have two Thinkpads, a
T400 and T430. Will Arca ever release wifi drivers for these? They
work perfectly under Centos 6.8.
I certainly hope that Arca release wifi drivers in the near future -
should make it easier to get things working rather than fiddling around
with genmac.
I did post my simple "howto" getting the Intel 5100 working earlier in
this thread...
If you need the driver pack I used send me an email.
Regards
Pete
If you would be so kind to send me the driver pack, I would appreciate it.
Bob Grimes ***@outlook.com
Pete
2017-06-23 14:02:35 UTC
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Hi Bob
Post by sctvguy1
Post by Pete
Hi
Post by sctvguy1
What will work with the Intel 5100 wifi cards? I have two Thinkpads, a
T400 and T430. Will Arca ever release wifi drivers for these? They
work perfectly under Centos 6.8.
I certainly hope that Arca release wifi drivers in the near future -
should make it easier to get things working rather than fiddling around
with genmac.
I did post my simple "howto" getting the Intel 5100 working earlier in
this thread...
If you need the driver pack I used send me an email.
Regards
Pete
If you would be so kind to send me the driver pack, I would appreciate it.
Did you try these drivers yet?


Regards

Pete
Barry Landy
2017-07-13 18:24:33 UTC
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On Sun, 4 Jun 2017, Doug Bissett wrote:

:>On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 06:37:49 UTC, "Peter J. Seymour"
:><***@pjsey.demon.co.uk> wrote:
:>
:>> On 23/05/2017 10:28, Marten Feldtmann wrote:
:>> > I've been an OS/2 fan since the OS/2 2.0 came out and actually I bought a new personal license of ArcaOS (to support this attempt)... but the reality is pretty hard:
:>> >
:>> > ...
:>> >
:>> > So to summarize for me: tried it on 3 hardware devices and never got a running system.
:>> >
:>> >
:>> Just to be different, ArcaOS installs easily on my T61, but I get a
:>> random hang at the startup folder. It seems to depend partly on what is
:>> in the folder.
:>
:>I have had that problem, for years. If there are more than about 4
:>items in the startup foldder, and they all try to start at the same
:>time that all of the RUN commands in CONFIG.SYS, and the STARTUP.CMD,
:>try to start, something will go wrong. he best answer, that I have
:>found is to iuse REXX AutoStart to space out the contents of the
:>STARTUP folder:

you can also use the ArcaOS startup folder (which is based on the
Xworkplace startup folder). this starts all the items in the folder
separately after config.sys finishes. I found it (or rather, the
Xworkplace version) solved all my startup problems.

:>
:>> http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/download/pub/os2/util/wps/rxast1911.exe
:>
:>
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